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policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting rights act of 1965 and federal recognition of same-sex marriage. next week the supreme court is expected to hear arguments on the affirmative action case which is based on a texas student's claim that she was denied admission to the university of texas because she's white. and police in tennessee are searching for two missing children, a 9-year-old and her 7-year-old brother. both children mysteriously vanished after their grandparents home was burned to the ground south of nashville last sunday. they were originally presumed dead in the fire. police issued an amber alert. no leads. >>> and our "news nation"
policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting...
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>> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to have a private sector-like fix for the economy. >> no time limits on answers, moderator's discretion, domestic policy, at least 90 minutes devoted to the economy. we're going to talk about a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that looks at this debate. do you buy what chris christie said yesterday, this is a game-changer come
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president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to protect our interests and those of the allies in the region. >> let me ask about syria. i wasn't sure if governor romney is saying he would have u.s. heavy weapons arms directly to the rebels or he would work through the saudis or others in the region who want to arm the rebels. how is he different. >> what governor romney said is if we don't reach out and find the responsible and moderate forces within the opposition movement, they would be left stranded alone and isolated -- >> hillary clinton had meeting after meeting -- you know the secretary of
president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to...
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thomas pickering as you know, a very respected leader in foreign policy, is heading an investigation to figure this out. nothing is more important. you know, the middle east as we know is a very, very dangerous place. and we have to keep our guard up even as we are engaged in that region of the world in bringing many of these new countries into really the democratic sphere. this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations in libya that followed that terrorist ait tack, with 30,000 in the street, you know, demanding that those militias and those, you know, terrorists and islamic militias are disbanded. that gives us, you know, great hope for, you know, what can happen in a place like libya. >> thanks so much, robert gibbs, see you in denver, be there tomorrow. >> thanks, andre ya. >> up next, the testy senate debate in massachusetts. and still ahead, mitt romney's debate strategy. we'll talk to his top adviser kevin madden. join us in denver at the site of the first presidential debate. among our guests obama dep
thomas pickering as you know, a very respected leader in foreign policy, is heading an investigation to figure this out. nothing is more important. you know, the middle east as we know is a very, very dangerous place. and we have to keep our guard up even as we are engaged in that region of the world in bringing many of these new countries into really the democratic sphere. this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations...
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for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at predicting? what do we get wrong more than anything else? >> in general the field of economic prediction is a pretty bad example. for example, in december of 2007, most people in the "wall street journal's" forecasting panel, 45 distinguished economists said we would not go into a recession over the next year. in fact, it turned out we were already in recession by december 2007. it was later revealed through the data. when we're in a recession we don't know it half the time and can't predict the macro economy more than six months in advance. you had all kinds of probl
for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at...
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here's what he said slamming the president on foreign policy. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and stepping away from our alleys, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression. the arab spring presented an opportunity to help move millions of people from oppression to freedom, but it also presented grave risks. we needed a strategy for success, but the president offered none. and now he seeks to down play the significance of the calamities of the past few weeks. steve, does he have a point? >> no. what's the old saying? that dog won't hunt. i don't think you can criticize barack obama on his foreign policy achievements. it's a tough world out there. it's complicated. things don't always happen the way we want them to, but they have done a terrific job of handling very difficult situations. they killed osama bin laden. i think they have a record to stand on that the president can proudly go to the debates and argue wi
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it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think that's going to be his basic message. >> in the op-ed there was a phrase used, soft power. i guess what does that mean? what would they have done differently with libya? >> well, here's what should have happened. first, ideally you anticipate the arab spring. if you can't do that, when it happens you set forth a very clear vision of where the region ought to go, in the direction of a constitutional government. you actually get involved in these countries. yo
it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if...
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on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other issues. i want to get to larger question, which is what is a romney foreign policy? what is going to be different about it than president bush's? less sort of the quote unquote freedom agenda? >> what you're going to have is a foreign policy that's been in the bipartson tradition of strength from kennedy and beyond. one that believes you need a strong economy. you need to have leadership. america's better off and the world is better off when america leads as "the washington post" editorial said today. there's a vacuum in syria. there's a vacuum in the middle east and forces unfriendly to the united states that have other interests. extremists are filling that
on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other issues. i want to get to larger question, which is what is a romney foreign policy? what is going to be...
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romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. se
romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >>...
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i mean, the speech today by mitt romney about foreign policy was a joke. it has been already panned by so many who actually know what they're talking about. this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics in london and do that right insulting our good friends and our great partner in the uk. so let's talk about the substance of what it takes to run the united states of america, the most powerful country in the world, and not about, you know, style points at a debate. this is a real job here, and you have to be focused and know what in the world you're doing. >> so your criticizing us for criticizing the campaign debate? okay. let's move on. >> i think the american public wants to hear about the candidates. >> i agree with your main point. let's go back, the obama campaign released this ad over the weekend going after romney's plan on taxes. let's watch the campaign ad that was put out. >> this was dishonest. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> romney is being dishonest here, too. >> i a cording to an independent nonport stan study, b
i mean, the speech today by mitt romney about foreign policy was a joke. it has been already panned by so many who actually know what they're talking about. this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics in london and do that right insulting our good friends and our great partner in the uk. so let's talk about the substance of what it takes to run the united states of america, the most powerful country in the world, and not about, you know, style points at a debate. this is a real...
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policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the format. debate formats have been krit krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor one person or the other? >> no, i don't think so. i think as you know, who goes first was determined by coin flip and there's a slight advantage of having your opponent go first. in the opening, romney won the coin toss because pres
policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the...
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, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle control point, and two afghan soldiers came up. they were speaking to the americans at this checkpoint. and then suddenly one of these afghan soldiers pulled out a weapon, opened fire, killed one american soldier, killed another american contractor, and then another americans in the area opened fire, killing at least three of the afghans. and this is a major problem according to statistics. at least 20% of all u.s. combat deaths this year are a result of these insider attacks. and there have been orders issued to try and separate u.s. and afghan forc
, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle...
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the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008 primaries. when the going to gets tough, when the pressure is on, he really steps up to it. i think barack obama whether do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this,do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this, we all play it as a game. if you were an average person sitting at home last night, you said, wait a minute, i suspect that guy romney's going to increase my taxes. wait a minute, i'm a senior. it will cost me $600 more for prescription drugs. i think those are the things that are important to voters and that's why i think the pres
the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008...
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americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that they're learning more, that their initial instiblgt -- they didn't know the situation was initially, that they've explained it better as they've done intelligence assessments, but it raises the more fundamental question which is why was the consulate not secure? how was it that security issues, as opposed to their stories afterward, these are american lives at stake in an unstable region, what are the intelligence failures? what were the security failures? those are fundamental questions. >> there were intelligence failu failures, there were warnings, mark halperi
americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that...
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policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor romney, kindly set aside the youtube clips, the you didn't build thats, and the conservative dog whistles that guess what all of us can hear, put up a good fight, an honest fight, in the end politics may still be a circus, but the country deserves more than just peanuts. thanks again to kurt, richard, karen and michael. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow for post-debate analysis at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by savannah guthrie, former governor ed rendell, professorer michael eric dyson a
policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor...
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giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >> i'm looking at some of the previews of the speech. >> which he loves. >> i don't. he's going there on benghazi, talking about iran. does he really need to do this? >> yes, does. >> let me respond to that, you know. what he has done over the last couple weeks is tried, in working on the speech, is to try to step back and look at events in recent weeks and years. iran closer to a nuclear bomb than it has ever been before. syria in chaos. you know, lots of tumult throughout the middle east. the arab spring turning into some sort of dark winter. and he's taking a step back and looking -- this is the world we live in. the president likes to talk about a pivot to asia. the middle east is really unsettling, unraveling. and let's take a look at how we got here and where we go from here. he says explicitly in the speech as it relates to benghazi that the only people responsible for the attack on our consulate in benghazi are the
giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >> i'm looking at some of the previews of the speech. >> which he loves. >> i don't. he's going there on benghazi, talking about iran. does he really need to do this? >> yes, does. >> let me respond to that, you know. what he has done over the last couple weeks is tried, in working on the speech, is to try to...
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that is tomorrow at the virginia institute, he will give a speech on foreign policy, trying to attack the president's policies overseas as being soft overseas. he will try to project the image of strength and once again sort of cast himself as a man who is ready to lead america. >> okay, thanks once again, peter alexander, contributing. >>> and at the washington post, ladies, good day to both of you. >> good morning. >> so to both of you, we are 30 days out. i want to get a general assessment from each of you as to where we are in this election. eleanor, you go first. >> well, i think mitt romney revived his campaign, he was on the verge of being discounted. and his donors were going to move their money to senate races and house races. and so his campaign is obviously revived. i think he thinks he can win, and his supporters think he can win. i think he is still the underdog when you look at the key states, the president still maintains an edge. we have not really seen how the polls will bounce, after the debate and whether the president has lost ground, say, in ohio. but i think that
that is tomorrow at the virginia institute, he will give a speech on foreign policy, trying to attack the president's policies overseas as being soft overseas. he will try to project the image of strength and once again sort of cast himself as a man who is ready to lead america. >> okay, thanks once again, peter alexander, contributing. >>> and at the washington post, ladies, good day to both of you. >> good morning. >> so to both of you, we are 30 days out. i want to...
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i think it's hard to argue that a foreign policy event coming this late in the campaign is going to trump the white house. >> we want to go to some early voting nowing going with you and the dnc, kicked off their early voting bus tour in iowa. ohio residents, they can start early voting day after tomorrow in ohio. it seems like the democrats have an early ground game this morning. >> it seems that republicans on election day, it could be as much as 40% of the electorate that weighs in before actually election day. it's one of the interesting parts of this campaign is figuring out if it's going to change the message, if it's going to change the message of the campaign. it's going to be more states and more people than it has been, in both absen tent and voting than it has been -- >> i do want to take a look at your latest article which is titled, if obama wins, what changes for a second term? what are your conclusions? >> there will be wholesale change, all of the cabinet will be gone, much of the white house staff and so the president will have an opportunity really for a fresh start. the
i think it's hard to argue that a foreign policy event coming this late in the campaign is going to trump the white house. >> we want to go to some early voting nowing going with you and the dnc, kicked off their early voting bus tour in iowa. ohio residents, they can start early voting day after tomorrow in ohio. it seems like the democrats have an early ground game this morning. >> it seems that republicans on election day, it could be as much as 40% of the electorate that weighs...
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i think obama has done pretty well on foreign policy pip don't think he's made bad calls. you can argue about it, but he's made tough calls on using these drones. he's had to kill a lot of people. he's been tough-minded about it. my guess is that eisenhower would have approved of the job that obama's done so far. i think romney, you know, he's never been president. how do you know? being governor of massachusetts doesn't really prepare few your that. romney seems to be a pretty sober-minded guy. he has reasonably good judgment as far as we can tell as a businessman. it's hard to know. the thing about the presidency is until you are president, you don't know. nothing really prepares you for it. >> thank you so much. appreciate your time this sunday afternoon. >> thank you, craig. >>> and part of a bridge collapse during 405 construction. is carmageddon a sequel for california drivers? is. >>> plus a lot of new polls are out. we're checking who's in the lead in ohio and iowa. we'll bring it to you on the other side of this break. you're watching msnbc, in case you hadn't hea
i think obama has done pretty well on foreign policy pip don't think he's made bad calls. you can argue about it, but he's made tough calls on using these drones. he's had to kill a lot of people. he's been tough-minded about it. my guess is that eisenhower would have approved of the job that obama's done so far. i think romney, you know, he's never been president. how do you know? being governor of massachusetts doesn't really prepare few your that. romney seems to be a pretty sober-minded...
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as we were talking about earlier, the issue of foreign policy only helps the president. even if there was something there that might be cloudy, at the end of the day he is the hero and governor romney does not have that experience. he was a governor. at least if you're a congressman, you can sigh i served on the foreign service committee. that is his achilles heel. >> even if he was a governor in a state like new york that had the sort of 9/11 experience, but in this context, in massachusetts, certainly -- >> or alaska where you can see russia. >> dig that one back up. >> they can see your dna by looking. >> two problems that mitt romney had or has in all of this, one is that basically as you're saying, if he had waited three days, this would be a completely different story because there are serious questions here for the president, for the state department, for the administration to answer. but basically, mitt romney gave president obama cover on this. so he's got the bin laden kill, but he's got this. the second thing is, both of you just said, yes, this campaign is ab
as we were talking about earlier, the issue of foreign policy only helps the president. even if there was something there that might be cloudy, at the end of the day he is the hero and governor romney does not have that experience. he was a governor. at least if you're a congressman, you can sigh i served on the foreign service committee. that is his achilles heel. >> even if he was a governor in a state like new york that had the sort of 9/11 experience, but in this context, in...
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monday we have that big foreign policy speech by governor romney here in virginia. virginia military institute. and everything he does is ads, his speeches, his debates are going to be in the frame of here's what the last four years have been like. here's what my four years would be like. because in the ads where in ohio today, romney is saying we can't afford four more years. in doing this story, jim vandehei and i found two rising advisers within the romney camp, senator rob portman who was the stand-in for obama, who played the obama role in debate prep has become a much broader adviser, someone that the president -- someone that romney trusts. and he's given them a lot broader advice about messaging and stagecraft. earlier mika was mentioning -- mika and joe were mentioning romney's family. tag romney, the oldest son, as you guys know, very involved in the 2008 campaign. he's been less day-to-day involved in this campaign because of his business, he's been out raising money. he's taking a more assertive role. we're going to see him, both at headquarters and in m
monday we have that big foreign policy speech by governor romney here in virginia. virginia military institute. and everything he does is ads, his speeches, his debates are going to be in the frame of here's what the last four years have been like. here's what my four years would be like. because in the ads where in ohio today, romney is saying we can't afford four more years. in doing this story, jim vandehei and i found two rising advisers within the romney camp, senator rob portman who was...